Cataclysmo II: 16 - The Stars, Like Dust

[WebSerials]

The Queen's plan revealed, Bucky and Sam now find themselves trapped by the Atlanteans.

Cataclysmo will return with its final eight episodes, beginning in October.

[cataclysmorox]

A MONTH? We've got to wait a month!? There's no way I can handle that! What's going on? And you said they were the eight final episodes. Does that mean this is the last season? Now, back to the episode...

I've got a new favorite line, though:
"Nothing matters but power, and control, and - chocolate chip cookies" LOL
Tell Chris Wright this episode had the best sound design so far. Absolutely fabulous.
This episode had good pacing,  but I don't think it was a good last episode for a month (actually, no episode is a good last episode  ). At least you avoiding wrecking my life by leaving them in eminent danger.

Thinking on Johnny, I guess you're trying to go with the way most novels and movies seem to end. The hero will die, and the sub-main character will get the girl and after mourning the death of the main character, they live happily ever after. Of course Bucky may find himself in prison, Sam may find herself on the other side of the universe. At a garage sale.  And the Earth may be taken over by the Atlantians. They could always live in the past! LOL

I'm still curious why Bucky's star thing on his suspenders was the Atlantian symbol (Or did they fake it?).

I'm wondering if you guys will get a chance to throw in the number 42. You've used stuff from other sci-fi, but I haven't seen a use of 42 yet.

[ChrisWright]

Tell Chris Wright this episode had the best sound design so far. Absolutely fabulous.

Thanks.

[Alec Corday]

I watch my Cataclysmo the way a true addict should: Saturday evenings (Caribbean Time Zone), I turn down the lights, shut down my second screen, pour myself a glass of (insert random libation) and put on headphones. Indeed, Chris, the sound is great. As is the score. I raise my glass of (insert random libation) to ya'all! In case you guys wondered if there is anyone who really sits down and 'listens' to the story (as opposed to just watching it)... yes, there is. At least two.

I also love the detail you put into every episode, given the limited budget/capabilities. I almost hesitate to use the word limited because it really doesn't entirely feel that way. And Anthony deserves an extra ovation for the cookie line! Who would have thought of a cookie for a deus ex machina? I think I know what he was eating at the time he wrote that line: "Mhm... how will I get them out of this insufferable pickle we put them in?" -- munchmunchmunch -- "I know! I'll throw a cookie at them!"

Brilliant, Anthony! ;-) No, really!

Thus our predicaments: Johnny's got pocked in the peepers, Sam's hung out to dry in orbit, HG's stuck in a squabble with the queen, and Bucky's.... he's...well, he's....

Well, he is.

I can't wait all the long way to October! So there wont be no libations for me 'till then, I gather. (Great, now I'm stuck with that word)

Guess I'll have to do my own Webserial until then... Seriously, I will.

Kudos for another 'delicious' eps. well done!

Now I'm hungry.

[ChrisWright]

Something I didn't realize until just now, which is kind of sad considering how many times I heard the line before finishing sound design.  H.G. said, "It's a pleasure to meet you, Bucky."  He's also wearing a hat.

[monk]

I am a bit confused.  At the end of this last show the sequence seemed to imply that the Queens best warrior and Johnny's fight, and the event in the Atlantis lab with Wells saving Sam and Bucky were happening simultaneously.  Though, Johnny had gone back in time With Wells' staff after Bucky and Sam were taken up by the Atlantians.  From the the first season, the incident with Dr. Crankshaft being hit with the meteor and when they meet the gas mask group are a significant time away from each other.  So there seems to be a discrepancy in the time in which the two events happened in this episode.  Any thoughts?

[ChrisWright]

I am a bit confused.  At the end of this last show the sequence seemed to imply that the Queens best warrior and Johnny's fight, and the event in the Atlantis lab with Wells saving Sam and Bucky were happening simultaneously.  Though, Johnny had gone back in time With Wells' staff after Bucky and Sam were taken up by the Atlantians.  From the the first season, the incident with Dr. Crankshaft being hit with the meteor and when they meet the gas mask group are a significant time away from each other.  So there seems to be a discrepancy in the time in which the two events happened in this episode.  Any thoughts?

The time between Bucky's rescue from the Ion Cannon and Cataclysmo beginning was a matter of months, yes.  Remember, Bucky and Sam were abducted by the Atlantians while fleeing with the gas mask gang, who had been living in the Cataclysmo world for just a while.  The time lines for Johnny and Sam and Bucky were simultaneous until Johnny punched Young Wells and took the Stick of Time.  It was then that Johnny went back to about an hour before Cataclysmo happened.

From then on, Bucky and Sam and Johnny were in different periods of time, but their relative time lines to each other stayed the same (eg: 5 minutes in Bucky and Sam's time on Atlantis = 5 minutes in Johnny's pre-Cataclysmo world.)  When the White Warrior defeated Johnny, the next moment you see him, he's back on Atlantis in the future with Bucky and Sam, therefore one may deduce that immediately after his victory, the White Warrior used the Stick of Time and went Back<<<To The Future!!! 

[Nathan Jeffers]

In a movie with time travel, there's bound to be confusion.

[David Halberstadt]

In a movie with time travel, there's bound to be confusion.

What?

[Kevin Christensen]

I will say three things:

1. We never see the White Warrior use Wells' Stick of Time.
2. The Atlanteans probably had to take some time to fix up a way to make the Stick of Time transport the entire city.
3. The first time Johnny meets the White Warrior, back in ep. 7, the WW says that he had met Johnny before, and that he had been utterly detroyed.

I will say no more.

[cataclysmorox]

Because I have a singularly boring life, I timed the amount of time it took them to make the time jump. You showed a timer once and that lined up exactly with the 50 seconds remaining to when they jumped. But the time between when the worker guy says to the queen "5 minutes" to when they actually jump is only 4 minutes, 10 seconds. Whoops! 

Also, I didn't notice H.G. saying "It's a pleasure to meet you, Bucky." the first time I watched it. That was funny.

I noticed that the queen said they were going to the future, not the past. So here is the new theory: Throughout the entire two seasons you guys have quite skillfully avoided paradoxes. You have never allowed anything to change through going back in time. Also, the latest time period ever shown in Cataclysmo was shown in the first few episodes of season 1. Cataclysmo has not been stopped then, therefore I assume that it can not be stopped through time travel into the past.

But I think that the Atlantians will travel to somewhere past where the movie began, ending in the future. There they will use the ion cannon to remove cataclysmo, and restore the Earth. Then something will happen. I don't know what, but something will. Maybe Wells will blow up the Atlantians by sneaking into their nuclear reactor that powers the planet. But the Atlantians will end up losing right after they fix the Earth.

Now, this seems to leave three plot holes.
One; how does the Earth go on? A lot of good it does removing the effect of cataclysmo, if the Earth is empty. So I humbly suggest that this will be fixed by people from the past. Namely, Bucky and Sam.
Plot hole two; In episode one, Johnny was told by himself that the gorillas win. I think this is true! Remember the queen says they will go to the future, "where all your pitiful race will have been wiped out." The Johnny that the story is following will go back to the future, and watch all the humans in the army he once fought in be killed. He will be injured himself, but Wells will send him on one final mission. He will go back in time, to tell himself that the gorillas win, and the only hope is to stop cataclysmo. This is correct. And completely true, for all he knows. Then after this the atlantians will appear in the future, and the rest of the story as I described it will happen.
Plot hole three: Where did all the humans come from that Zanzibar leads in episode 1? And what happens to Jagger and the gang? Think hard here. Wells leads them who knows where. Could it be?


Yes, it's really far out.  But they do look a lot alike! How they would breath without masks is another thing. But if we assume that you don't allow paradoxes, this seems to be a valid way to explain it. It would keep Bucky from being his own ancestor, which I think is rather important. 

Am I right? Or am I close?

[Kevin Christensen]

Am I right? Or am I close?

Woah ho ho, some one wants us to reveal everything before the end of the movie comes out! I'm sorry, but you'll just have to wait and see how it goes. 

You have some interesting observations here, but let me point out that you can't actually call them plot holes until the movie is over. If there is an accidental paradox or gaping plot hole once the movie is over, then you can call us on it. But until then, you're just going to have to watch and see for yourself.

[willythegoat]

Cataclysmorox... I love the still from the movie on the right. That's my favorite soldier extra from episode 1. He's got such a grim, determined look. Props to whoever did that Webserials guys! The little guys hardly ever get credit.

[cataclysmorox]

You have some interesting observations here, but let me point out that you can't actually call them plot holes until the movie is over. If there is an accidental paradox or gaping plot hole once the movie is over, then you can call us on it. But until then, you're just going to have to watch and see for yourself.

Actually I was pointing out the plot holes that would result if my theory turned out to be right. As far as I know, there are no plot holes so far.